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sionibob June 24th 2018 07:02 PM

Good Grief???
 
Why haven't the Foos played Good Grief in like nearly 20 years? yet it's one of their best songs? I would love to hear it live again. I was actually at the London gig on Friday and I made a sign asking for them to play it but they didn't acknowledge it but they definitely saw it though they still didn't play it. :(
Hopefully somebody who can contact them could ask them for me coz this question has never been answered.
Thanks

O.B.gene June 24th 2018 07:06 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sionibob (Post 4195389)
Why haven't the Foos played Good Grief in like nearly 20 years? yet it's one of their best songs? I would love to hear it live again. I was actually at the London gig on Friday and I made a sign asking for them to play it but they didn't acknowledge it but they definitely saw it though they still didn't play it. :(
Hopefully somebody who can contact them could ask them for me coz this question has never been answered.
Thanks

There's a HUGE amount of great songs they don't play anymore. 'Good Grief' is an awesome song, but there are better ones no longer played. I shouted out for 'Winnebago' on Friday :lol: They're a different band now, and only play the hits at stadium shows these days.

Simon June 24th 2018 07:13 PM

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Yep, whether we like it or not they play to huge stadiums and other large venues these days, which are filled to the brim with casual and first time fans, and Dave knows they want to hear the hits. There are even quite a lot of singles that don't get played much, never mind album tracks or B-Sides.

In the last few years they've tried throwing some rarer album tracks in the set and sadly, it usually falls flat because the majority don't know it. Like in 2015 they randomly threw in 'Wind Up'. Crowd was dead.

We really need them to do a 'Tour of smaller venues with setlists full of rarities for the hardcore fans'. Might need a catchier title though.

Poppy4580 June 24th 2018 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 4195391)
Yep, whether we like it or not they play to huge stadiums and other large venues these days, which are filled to the brim with casual and first time fans, and Dave knows they want to hear the hits. There are even quite a lot of singles that don't get played much, never mind album tracks or B-Sides.

In the last few years they've tried throwing some rarer album tracks in the set and sadly, it usually falls flat because the majority don't know it. Like in 2015 they randomly threw in 'Wind Up'. Crowd was dead.

We really need them to do a 'Tour of smaller venues with setlists full of rarities for the hardcore fans'. Might need a catchier title though.


I dont know...it kind of rolls off the tongue...:p :p :p

The anti-hit tour???

The Not the Best Of Foo Tour?

sionibob June 24th 2018 08:08 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Yeah that sounds like an awesome idea! they played a bunch of old songs at Glastonbury a couple of years ago like exhausted for example, I was really surprised they didn't play it then and thought there must be a reason behind that song for them not to play it anymore, considering they have played nearly every song from that album with in the last few years.

02morrij June 24th 2018 08:12 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sionibob (Post 4195397)
Yeah that sounds like an awesome idea! they played a bunch of old songs at Glastonbury a couple of years ago like exhausted for example, I was really surprised they didn't play it then and thought there must be a reason behind that song for them not to play it anymore, considering they have played nearly every song from that album with in the last few years.

Was that Reading Festival 2012 perhaps?
We got Exhausted, Winnebago, Weenie Beenie, Wattershed, I'll Stick Around, Alone + Easy Target. Don't think we'll ever see the likes of that. I'm sure they played Hey, JP as well

Simon June 24th 2018 08:16 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sionibob (Post 4195397)
Yeah that sounds like an awesome idea! they played a bunch of old songs at Glastonbury a couple of years ago like exhausted for example, I was really surprised they didn't play it then and thought there must be a reason behind that song for them not to play it anymore, considering they have played nearly every song from that album with in the last few years.

Yeah they haven't played Good Grief since 2000 so I would guess it's one of many songs on the pile that they don't like that much.

sionibob June 24th 2018 08:29 PM

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I dunno why coz all the comments I ever seen for that song on youtube and stuff all say it's a really good song and they should play it more.

sionibob June 24th 2018 08:31 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 02morrij (Post 4195398)
Was that Reading Festival 2012 perhaps?
We got Exhausted, Winnebago, Weenie Beenie, Wattershed, I'll Stick Around, Alone + Easy Target. Don't think we'll ever see the likes of that. I'm sure they played Hey, JP as well

Didn't know they played them at Reading too I remember watching Glasto 2015 and was well surprised they were playing stuff off their 1st album.

sionibob June 24th 2018 08:33 PM

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Currently listening to the manchester gig from last week on radio x https://www.radiox.co.uk/radio/

matineeidyll June 24th 2018 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 4195391)
Like in 2015 they randomly threw in 'Wind Up'. Crowd was dead.

I wrote 'Wind Up?' on my arms in Brisbane and Pat's eyes lit up but it didn't even seem to register for Dave.

When you've got the young pups wanting their spotlight moment on what you're calling your 'old school' songs, they're just not old-school.

FrenchEnemies June 25th 2018 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sionibob (Post 4195408)
Didn't know they played them at Reading too I remember watching Glasto 2015 and was well surprised they were playing stuff off their 1st album.

Hmm sure you aren't living in that alternate dimension where Dave never broke his leg and went on to play a different set at Glastonbury? :p

Ngl, I envy you a little bit. :)

sionibob June 25th 2018 02:01 PM

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Damn I swore it was glaso, man was that really reading 2012?? Only feels like a couple of years ago. Mental lol

Beto June 25th 2018 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 4195391)
We really need them to do a 'Tour of smaller venues with setlists full of rarities for the hardcore fans'. Might need a catchier title though.

Scenesters and scalpers would still fuck us, the TRUE FANS© because if it's more "exclusive" they'll just sell'em faster, to posers and people like that.

What we need is a postboard concert, where you need at least 100 posts count (pre-announcement) to get an invite. Donna gets in free with a +1 and VIP treatment.


Edit - Additional rules -
- Users with 1,000+ post count are the setlist curators.
- The band have NO saying on the setlist.
- If one of the said users suggests one of those covers (Young man blues, under pressure, etc), he/she will lose said setlist privileges.

O.B.gene June 25th 2018 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Beto (Post 4195509)
Donna gets in free with a +1 and VIP treatment.

She don't even like Foo Fighters :cool:

BigCol June 26th 2018 09:34 AM

Re: Good Grief???
 
They started the o2 show with Iíll stick around last year and it fell flat with 99% of the nouveau day trippers. So many great songs from the first 2 albums never get touched; the best set I saw in recent years was the Concorde holy shits show.

Sadly they are a stadium rock band and most people there would rather hear a tired under pressure than they would wattershed or good grief. It still makes me angry but I just accept it more these days.

O.B.gene June 26th 2018 09:57 AM

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If it's not on the 'Greatest Hits', it's gonna struggle live during these big shows! :cool:

trevgreg June 26th 2018 12:23 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 4195391)
We really need them to do a 'Tour of smaller venues with setlists full of rarities for the hardcore fans'. Might need a catchier title though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto (Post 4195509)
Scenesters and scalpers would still fuck us, the TRUE FANS© because if it's more "exclusive" they'll just sell'em faster, to posers and people like that.

Right. The thought of it is nice, but I suspect there are reasons the bigger acts out there don't do it. For one, I do wonder what the likelihood of "actual/real" fans getting tickets for cheap would be, regardless of the set list.

Second of all, what if it's only a show or two? A lot of us might say we'd jump on something like that, but when it'd actually come down to paying to fly out to L.A. or wherever and paying for a ticket... might be a different thing altogether. There's going to be a difference between us actually being there or just reading about it or watching 2-3 minutes of given songs on YouTube.

On the side, this sort of thing is what most veteran band fanbases talk about online anyway, so it's not a situation we're only in. I suspect if these "mythic" rarity tours were something that was doable, they'd probably be done by now anyway. But if you have 5+ albums and a fanbase that can fill arenas or stadiums, it's really not a situation you can win entirely anyway, at least among the parts of the fanbase that has seen you live already or follows you enough as it is. Unless i'm in that boat, it's really hard for me to judge what's going on in the end, imo.

Simon June 26th 2018 02:08 PM

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Indeed, we've been discussing this subject as long as I've been here, and I'm sure a bit more before that as well. I was only being semi-serious about any special tours, and I think we know the chances of it happening are very slim.

As long they can fill stadiums and huge arenas wherever they go, attracting new fans every year, they're going to stick to what makes the big crowd happy, and it makes absolute sense. If we were in his shoes, I'm sure we'd do the same. Why play something to make 500 people happy and have 50,000 stood there bemused?

All I will say is what I've said before, I think they could mix things up quite a bit more whilst still sticking to the big songs. They have enough now to rotate them slightly.

This Is A Call
Big Me
Monkey Wrench
Hey, Johnny Park!
My Hero
Everlong
Stacked Actors
Breakout
Learn To Fly
Generator
All My Life
Times Like These
Best Of You
DOA
Skin And Bones
The Pretender
Long Road To Ruin
Let It Die
Wheels
Rope
Arlandria
These Days
Walk
Something From Nothing
Congregation
Run
The Sky Is A Neighborhood
La Dee Da
Dirty Water
Sunday Rain

That's 30 songs to rotate around, they usually only play around 18 each night at the minute.

FrenchEnemies June 26th 2018 03:36 PM

Re: Good Grief???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 4195621)
Indeed, we've been discussing this subject as long as I've been here, and I'm sure a bit more before that as well. I was only being semi-serious about any special tours, and I think we know the chances of it happening are very slim.

As long they can fill stadiums and huge arenas wherever they go, attracting new fans every year, they're going to stick to what makes the big crowd happy, and it makes absolute sense. If we were in his shoes, I'm sure we'd do the same. Why play something to make 500 people happy and have 50,000 stood there bemused?

All I will say is what I've said before, I think they could mix things up quite a bit more whilst still sticking to the big songs. They have enough now to rotate them slightly.

This Is A Call
Big Me
Monkey Wrench
Hey, Johnny Park!
My Hero
Everlong
Stacked Actors
Breakout
Learn To Fly
Generator
All My Life
Times Like These
Best Of You
DOA
Skin And Bones
The Pretender
Long Road To Ruin
Let It Die
Wheels
Rope
Arlandria
These Days
Walk
Something From Nothing
Congregation
Run
The Sky Is A Neighborhood
La Dee Da
Dirty Water
Sunday Rain

That's 30 songs to rotate around, they usually only play around 18 each night at the minute.

I think you're right in principle, it's not an all-or-nothing situation and they could mix it up a little more.

But I also think our fan glasses may be distorting our view of what the "big" Foo songs are ... songs like Wheels or Rope were getting blank stares from my section on Saturday.

The songs you cite are not all on the same level, I would say there are at least 3 tiers:

Tier 1, the classics/big hits:

This Is A Call
Big Me
Monkey Wrench
My Hero
Everlong
Breakout
Learn To Fly
All My Life
Times Like These
Best Of You
The Pretender
These Days
Walk
Run
The Sky Is A Neighborhood

Tier 2, the medium hits/fan favourites:

Stacked Actors
DOA
Wheels
Rope
Something From Nothing
Congregation
Let It Die
Hey, Johnny Park!
Generator
Skin And Bones
Long Road To Ruin
Arlandria

Tier 3, current album:

La Dee Da
Dirty Water
Sunday Rain


We can argue about what goes where, but for a standard big gig they probably have to play at least 10 of the 15 Tier 1 songs, and at least a couple from the most recent album. So the potential for rotation is really not as high as your original list makes it look.


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