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Old January 23rd 2011, 03:30 PM
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Default How to spot a fake Colour And The Shape LP

I posted this in another thread a while ago but thought it'd be a good idea to give it it's own thread, so people know about it. I hate the thought of fellow collectors getting duped into buying worthless bootlegs they thought were genuine.

It's not that easy if you don't have the real thing to compare, but some are easy to spot:
  • If it's pressed on anything other than black vinyl it's fake. The album was only officially released on standard black vinyl. I've seen green and blue at least.
  • If it's listed as being a "limited re-pressing" or anything similar it's fake. It's never been officially repressed, hence it's rarity.
  • If it's listed as being "new and sealed" it's most likely fake. I'm sure some people do have a genuine sealed copy but very very few and they wouldn't be 'new' either.
  • Price. There is the phrase 'too good to be true' and it's right most of them. There are lots going up recently with buy it now prices less than 50, some as low as 20 or 30. Real copies are worth 75 - 100 generally, so a low price should put you off.

Those are things you can just take from the auction listing. If you still aren't sure the actual vinyl itself:
  • All bootlegs I've seen are claiming to be the US press because they don't need to reproduce the little red sticker that always came on the UK press. So if it's claiming to be the UK press and has the sticker it's probably genuine. I've not seen a fake UK press with a fake sticker yet, but that's not to say they don't exist.
  • Colour and quality. After seeing two fakes compared to my genuine copy I can now easily spot a fake. There is just something about the fakes, they look flat and dull and off colour. The real ones were quite dark and non-shiny, the fakes are a different blue. On one of my fake copies the white text on the back wasn't printed properly, it was blurred and a perfect sign of an average, non-professional printing.
  • Also the actual quality of the cardboard sleeve. Again the album is from 1997, whilst some people would have kept them pristine locked in a draw most of them should show signs of wear and tear in places and the even clearer sign, ringwear. That is where the LP makes an impression into the cardboard sleeve. Very common with 2LPs in one standard sleeve. If the sleeve looks new with no wear and no ringwear you should be curious as to why.
  • Another thing to do is check the seller history, see if they have sold copies of it before. If the seller is a dealer they may have got ahold of a few copies over the years but if they've sold say 10+ in the space of a few months you should wonder how they got so many copies of a rare album.

Here are some examples of fakes, working with the above points.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Foo-Fighters-C...item4cf2763c8a

This one ticks many of the fake boxes. It's very cheap ($40), claims to be 'rare limited repress', 'new and sealed' and then just look at the front. I know it's under a camera flash but the blue is just wrong and the red is too bright. Compare it even to the back picture.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Foo-Fighters-C...item2a0b17bcc7

Easy fake since it's pressed on Blue vinyl. Or black Vinyl resprayed. Either way, obvious fake.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FOO-FIGHTERS-C...item3cb1be6fb2

Another fake blue one but take note of the sleeve on this one as well, really bad quality and just doesn't look right. If you don't have a Vinyl copy even look at your CD booklet and compare. Just not right.

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Finally, a genuine copy:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Foo-Fighters-C...item2eb0addda4

It's the UK pressing and it has the red sticker in the top left. The seller lists it as used, the sleeve shows a bit of wear on the edges but more importantly look at the colour and quality of the sleeve. Much darker blue and it just looks different in a good way, looks like a professional print. Definitely real.

Hope that helps.
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Old January 23rd 2011, 03:40 PM
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Hey this is nice.

Is this the only foo vinyl with so many fakes?
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Old January 23rd 2011, 03:44 PM
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There may be others but this is the most prominent because it's the rarest and most sought after. Bootleggers obviously create the stuff that's going to get them the most money, so if genuine copies of something only got for 20-30 it's not worth it, but 75 - 100 or more and it is.
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With the current prices I wish I would have held on to mine longer. You are right Simon, there are fakes of this everywhere because of the demand and rarity. Good luck to those of you looking for a legit copy.
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Old January 23rd 2011, 03:52 PM
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I just wish they would reissue all of the albums on Vinyl. Plenty of other bands do it, there have been several reissues of the Nirvana LPs recently for instance, but FF all were produced once, never to be seen again.
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Nice post Studmuffin, I've almost bought a few fakes in the past before I realised that it was 'too good to be true'.

Now I tend to go after the singles and promos as I don't have the type of money laying around to buy a real TCATS vinyl.
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