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Old November 16th 2019, 10:00 AM
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I looked it up to refresh the old noggin.

The raw version was leaked on Reddit on December 24th 2018, hence why OB then uploaded it to Youtube.

Original Reddit topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters...ssion_upgrade/

Then the remaster followed on the anniversary date. He 100% used the leak as the source of his remaster, he told me and sent me work in progress versions as he worked on it. He really did a stellar job in the end.

As for the actual source there is certainly analogue hiss in there, so I think a tape was involved somewhere. Way back in the day the story was the woman who leaked it had a DAT, which she dubbed to cassettes and traded out. For years the best copy available online was probably fourth or fifth generation cassette, so I think it's probable that this one is first or second gen at absolute worst. The raw copy is a bit muddy but the remaster proves there is a very nice quality recording under there.
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Old November 19th 2019, 03:52 AM
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I looked it up to refresh the old noggin.

The raw version was leaked on Reddit on December 24th 2018, hence why OB then uploaded it to Youtube.

Original Reddit topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters...ssion_upgrade/

Then the remaster followed on the anniversary date. He 100% used the leak as the source of his remaster, he told me and sent me work in progress versions as he worked on it. He really did a stellar job in the end.

As for the actual source there is certainly analogue hiss in there, so I think a tape was involved somewhere. Way back in the day the story was the woman who leaked it had a DAT, which she dubbed to cassettes and traded out. For years the best copy available online was probably fourth or fifth generation cassette, so I think it's probable that this one is first or second gen at absolute worst. The raw copy is a bit muddy but the remaster proves there is a very nice quality recording under there.
Right so the Reddit/YT source was indeed same (less YT degradation - poss a rather important, if immediately inaudible aspect re data loss).

Still a lovely edit there regardless. Like I just said:

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V3 - about where I got to as well - in my case saying less was more and not being afraid to say don't over do it...

Yet these tracks seem to "defy" an analog cassette source. By which I mean logic says they must be from a very early gen (aka copy of the orig max). Yet other logic says in throwing your remaster you give nobody else the digital source.
I want to say more - yet (YAY the crowd shouts) you actually beat me to that:

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Nice! It's still a little rough sounding but this is definitely an improvement over the old copy.

EDIT: The old copy was labelled as third gen cassette but I've always thought that was dubious. Given that this sounds a gen or two better but still pretty rough I'd guess this is probably more like a real 2nd or 3rd gen, and that old version was 4th or 5th gen.
And yay from me too as this highlights my own point above that the source was high gen.
1) Sound to DAT
2) DAT to tape (tape gen 1)
3) Tape to Tape (tape gen 2)

Since even 1) can sound rough if you are just recording a run through with no pre defined settings, there is no way to be totally sure. Except we indeed have enough tape hiss to know its not 1).

So I think 2) probably, or perhaps at a stretch 3, depending on the tapes used. After that there is no real way the final DAC (Digital/Audio conversion - or AD reverse) was able to retain so much quality that it could ever be edited this well. (Though maybe I'll be wrong).

A Metal tape (for those wondering not music type but format: (IEC Type IV)) will record 90+% of DAT quality). So you could have a format to format thing going on here. Even chromium dioxide (CrO2) tape (IEC Type II), could have saved a huge amount of audio detail vs Normal position tape.

Anyway pointless speculation as we'll prob never know. Yet I drill into this shit like this not wholly just to define a source for one cassette etc, but to look holistically at the chance similar quality recordings might exist of other sessions around the same time...

Or who might have been there to get them (yet still shared but not had them massively leaked). And that last "leak" bit's the real fucking stretch... because it's very well proven that this shit "spreads like the Ebola virus" lol
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So..

Thatís it for the foo files - releases?
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So..

Thatís it for the foo files - releases?
They've had big gaps between them before, iTunes was July then the next one wasn't until September. So who knows.
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Wait, WTF? They keep releasing new songs on Spotify? Since when???
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Immaculate timing And thanks for posting it man

"Dear World,

Born on the bayou, we'll Razor you (live).

It's The sign,

We've got the Best of You (live)."


Seriously though

A) 11 songs, that's now up to a full CD. What's up with that? More impact needed? Time running short?
B) Management - A PM would have been fine to get me back onto the music, you didnt have to upload a whole album mid-post.
Uhhh Yeah... and I'm just learning about this now? And of course I can't download it...
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There's a new release. Youtube recommended me Iron and Stone from it. Also, is there a way to source where Make A Bet comes from?
tracklist for this one is:
Iron and Stone
Have A Cigar
Make A Bet
Ain't It The Life (2 meter sessions)
Floaty (2 meter sessions)
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is there a way to source where Make A Bet comes from?
it was released as a b-side on the 'Learn to Fly' single.
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it was released as a b-side on the 'Learn to Fly' single.
That's cool! I somehow never knew they officially released it other than as Win Or Lose on that movie soundtrack.
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Ain't It The Life (2 meter sessions)
Floaty (2 meter sessions)
Shame they didn't released the best everlong version ever.
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Shame they didn't released the best everlong version ever.
It really is! At least these were on the Stacked Actors Australlian single.
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Wait, WTF? They keep releasing new songs on Spotify? Since when???
This is what I am finding out. But I don't use spotify so now I have to find a way to get these songs.
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This is what I am finding out. But I don't use spotify so now I have to find a way to get these songs.
they throw them on youtube.
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they throw them on youtube.
I don't like streaming music, I'd rather have it in my own collection to listen to it. I did find a site that has these for download, so the files are out there.

I intend to buy these on CD/Vinyl when ever they end up getting released.
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I don't like streaming music, I'd rather have it in my own collection to listen to it. I did find a site that has these for download, so the files are out there.

I intend to buy these on CD/Vinyl when ever they end up getting released.
Technically these are already released so unless there is some box set planned there won't be any new physical copies.
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Technically these are already released so unless there is some box set planned there won't be any new physical copies.
Hopefully that isn't the case.
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Technically these are already released so unless there is some box set planned there won't be any new physical copies.
Unless ALL of these "B-Side/slightly obscure" releases have been thrown out as a starter for what will be in the 2020 box set. Most are on CD, maybe Dave wants a bunch of stuff on vinyl too (though anything released "could be" CD also). If there is a box it's going to have things we've never heard as well.

I'm having repeated recollection as I see these all fire out, of Dave's anger at having to do the Greatest Hits album against his wishes.

Still wont be greatest hits by title of course - because I'm sure he's committed now to the band going on. But this next one is shaping up to be a long beast of a tour. Solo album itches are done and dusted... but reading between the lines not all the band love all of it as much as they once did, and the money thing doesn't compel as much when you are talking millions more on (many) tens of millions made.

Which lead me going back in my head to this shitty scenario where the "Greatest Hits" release wasn't - then the box wasn't named Greatest Hits but ended up becoming it. Nobody wants that to happen.
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